Porsche 911 TARGA 4S (991.2). Is this Porsche's HIDDEN GEM?

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Porsche 911 TARGA 4S (991.2). Is this Porsche's HIDDEN GEM?

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This week, what we consider to be the real hidden gem in the Porsche 911 991.2 generation - the mighty C4S Targa. Steeped in history, beautiful to behold, featuring THAT folding roof, and now packing serious flat-6 twin-turbo firepower.

The Targa used to be the wimpy runt of the litter (993, 996, 997 \u0026 991.1), but this final edition is a serious drivers’ car with unbeatable versatility, and the ability to turn heads at 50 paces.
And it’s a favourite of Jay Kay from Jamiroquai!

Will this Carmine Red beauty work its way into the CarGuys’ garage? Can Jason be converted to modern 911s? Will the roof keeping working? All these questions and more are answered in this week’s episode. Enjoy!

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jjeffery worboys
jjeffery worboys 26 күн мурун
Pretty car, great build quality but I just wish they weren't so fat. None of my local roads have got any wider and neither have my garage doors.
63humanbeing
63humanbeing 27 күн мурун
The real hidden gem is the Targa 4GTS 991.1 - since it has the last of the natural aspirated engines... And it was produced in much smaller quantities since Targa was not as appreciated as it is nowadays...
Bev jarvis
Bev jarvis Ай мурун
What’s the music at the start of this video?
W Trolleybus
W Trolleybus Ай мурун
You mean you have to STOP before closing roof - pathetic.
Mark Qandil
Mark Qandil 3 ай мурун
Update: Hi guys... I am happy to report that my 2017 targa 4S was traded last month for new 992 targa 4S after 4.5 yrs of ownership and 25K miles and been through hundreds of autocross and track events. the roof back piece although is wobbly and looks awkward during operation, held up very well without any problems. Probably opened and closed the roof about +100 times a year and still no issues. The new car roof still looks awkward during operation but I am not too concerned. Mark
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 3 ай мурун
Awesome, congratulations 👍
Felicksos
Felicksos 3 ай мурун
Love the looks but the roof just seems so overengineered. I would actually prefer if you had to take it off manually. You have to stop the car to operate the roof anyway, and it could just be a sleeker, cheaper, lighter design.
TheWizard
TheWizard 3 ай мурун
This is the best looking 911, just beautiful.
Joe k
Joe k 4 ай мурун
Is that a Seiko SLA017 or 4MAS at 11: 52???
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 4 ай мурун
1968 Diver’s Re-Creation SLA025J1
mike stephenson
mike stephenson 6 ай мурун
no mention of how it drives with rear steer. really wish you would have spent a lot more time on the noise an buffeting aspect of the roof down experience. great video once again.
swiper1818
swiper1818 7 ай мурун
If you are using a lot of the steering wheel do you bang your fingers on the mode actuator? Looks like an unusual design oversight by Porsche...?
Andrew Storm
Andrew Storm 7 ай мурун
Sound is excellent
SABARI
SABARI 8 ай мурун
👍🏼
Padraig G
Padraig G 8 ай мурун
Absolutely great video lads. You too are still making the best content on youtube. I loved it!
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 8 ай мурун
Glad you enjoyed it!
Kiwi Dave
Kiwi Dave 9 ай мурун
Wouldn't bother with a convertible in UK to start with.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 9 ай мурун
Kiwi Dave I can’t answer views that dumb
Kiwi Dave
Kiwi Dave 9 ай мурун
@TheCarGuys.TV Shite weather, crowded roads, speed cameras everywhere. Why bother. If you could afford that car you could probably afford to live somewhere decent and actually enjoy it.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 9 ай мурун
Amazing wisdom
recon forsales
recon forsales 9 ай мурун
If you had the smarttop gadget fitted to the targa roof then you can operate the targa roof up to 10mph
christopher
christopher 9 ай мурун
Best duo since morecome and wise. When I watch one of these posts it takes me back to the eighties. Half expect my old man to come through the door with the fish and chips bought with luncheon vouchers. There is a metal Mickey era about this channel and it works. Keep going Lads. Big Fan.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 9 ай мурун
Er , thanks
Teacher Tony Cars
Teacher Tony Cars 9 ай мурун
kgglobal.info/phone/rXmLaHHUl7G9jG0/video.html Please help me
Human Being
Human Being 10 ай мурун
Fuchs is pronounced "foox".
badbeatking80
badbeatking80 10 ай мурун
Spot on about the top. I actually like the 718 Spyder's top mechanism. You do it yourself! Less can go wrong when it's a manual top.
MURZYN
MURZYN 11 ай мурун
Its my favourite 911 👍 just love it 😍😍 Targa
Richard Kennett
Richard Kennett 11 ай мурун
This is an old video now, but the value of 991.2 targa’s is going through the roof! Pardon the pun! I have been looking for one, then sell in days and the prices have gone up by £10k in the last two weeks. Watching every KGglobal review you can see why. Damen and Jason you are spot on, in your reviews. Every film is a must watch. Keep up the great work! My quest to find the right targa continues... cheers Rich
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 11 ай мурун
Thanks, my friend - good luck in your search
Michael Macefield
Michael Macefield 11 ай мурун
I went for a test drive on the strength of this review and ended up buying a yellow 991.2 Targa 4S about 6 months ago. It really is a lovely car. Great video and great channel.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 11 ай мурун
Wow, awesome ! Send us a pic 👍
Auchen888 Dolly
Auchen888 Dolly Жыл мурун
Car guys you are brilliant . Superb machine a great review thanks
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Жыл мурун
Glad you enjoyed it
gereshifters
gereshifters Жыл мурун
I love car reviews done by Brits. It was a fun watch.
Tom Ingrassia Images
Tom Ingrassia Images Жыл мурун
I have a 981 gts....but...I would love to have that car in miami blue with those wheels.
robert .m wood
robert .m wood Жыл мурун
...heaven...
henry boxer
henry boxer Жыл мурун
sorry are you sure its faster than the coupe? isnt it heavier??
rowauthority
rowauthority Жыл мурун
Porsche has been using this roof mechanism for a few years, now. Have there been many complaints about it's reliability?
S Q Q T S
S Q Q T S Жыл мурун
Nice Vid,, i love porsche YummyyY 😻
rotorcraft621
rotorcraft621 Жыл мурун
I still like the 2013 SLK 55 AMG with electrochromic roof glass better. A true hard top convertible.
mattjubie
mattjubie Жыл мурун
I noticed it’s not a stick. Did you buy it for your wife?
mac daddy
mac daddy Жыл мурун
Love the car but those wheels are just too big. Starting to look like a clown car. What's next 22 inch wheels, then 24 inches wheels...when will it end? Anything more than 17 inches is a waste.
JORGE
JORGE Жыл мурун
100mph to Zero?
TheGuerillapatriot
TheGuerillapatriot Жыл мурун
gorgeous, I loathe the asthetics of late model Porsche. This 911 is gorgeous.
AirAmerica
AirAmerica Жыл мурун
So it starts to rain and you pull over to put the top up and nothing happens! Is there a manual override or do you just sit there and watch your nice leather seats soak up the aqua? I promise you, its just a matter of time. About 5 minutes after your warrantee expires.
Doxie
Doxie Жыл мурун
Simply breath taking. What a piece of beautiful machinery, elegant wow I'm in love !
Don Johnson
Don Johnson Жыл мурун
Guys- about time you did a sit down with some dealers and talk about car prices now and the market trends ... please
john apostolakis
john apostolakis Жыл мурун
Get down you slag pissing myself laughing
Paul Taylor
Paul Taylor Жыл мурун
Love that transition when you moved from the tech drawing to real life. Class.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Жыл мурун
Thanks, Paul - you are the first to comment on that - it makes the effort worthwhile when people notice the detail 👍
Julian adams
Julian adams Жыл мурун
As the owner of a (older model) Mercedes AMG with a folding hardtop roof, I definitely relate to your concerns over the long term reliability of the Targa roof mechanism. However whilst it is working it is pure magic!
pinche gringo
pinche gringo Жыл мурун
amazing car
2 Claps and a Rick Flair
2 Claps and a Rick Flair Жыл мурун
Still needs more power, Porsche still needs to get a shot of testosterone this car should have 500hp, turbo should be 600hp
Cabby
Cabby Жыл мурун
Well done gents. The overall length of a 991.1 compared even to a 2004 Carrera 4S is very similar. A significant difference is in the length of the wheel base and this is what I believe makes the 991.1 models feel more un-Porsche-like. I believe what improves the sensation is more lower -end torque via the turbos in the 991.2 models. Great channel.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Жыл мурун
Thanks, Cabby
27 PayBack
27 PayBack Жыл мурун
Nice.. But, still under-powered. Even the 992 is under 500Hp
Tokyo997
Tokyo997 Жыл мурун
Get down there you slag! I’m laughing my ass off, my daughters asking “what’s so funny daddy?” Lol
Tokyo997
Tokyo997 Жыл мурун
Sport Response “straight into the back of a lorry” lol love it and God bless Norman Wisdom
SG gr
SG gr Жыл мурун
arrogant brainless male. go to jail ! for speeding!
jr harlow
jr harlow Жыл мурун
when a shield becomes a WEAPON!!..... I'm a huge fan of the 996 targa.. especially the very low production numbers on the 2004 model🔥... also fun fact I heard somewhere actually when the Targa was first introduced it was because rumor America was going to outlaw convertibles so this car what is not technically a convertible
jr harlow
jr harlow Жыл мурун
also, I forgot to mention.. rear glass lifts (opens) on my favorite 996 model
Dan Sutherland
Dan Sutherland Жыл мурун
Nice one guys, thanks
Sealgrey911
Sealgrey911 Жыл мурун
May I give a hint on Fuchs rims? Fuchs is the family name of the company's founders and also an animal, a fox. It is not pronounced like "Fukes", but like "Fooks" (like in looks).
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Жыл мурун
Sealgrey911 👍
RWH24112
RWH24112 Жыл мурун
I had now purchased two cars because of your reviews...
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Жыл мурун
Awesome!
RWH24112
RWH24112 Жыл мурун
@TheCarGuys.TV Ferrari GTB and Porsche 911
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Жыл мурун
That’s extremely flattering - which ones?
12 legged Sasquatch..
12 legged Sasquatch.. Жыл мурун
Jamiroquai is from North London ;)
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Жыл мурун
We wouldn’t let that get in the way of the joke
jia Liu
jia Liu Жыл мурун
This channel is so enjoyable
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Жыл мурун
Thank you
Max Bliss
Max Bliss Жыл мурун
@11:51
SageoftheSixPaths
SageoftheSixPaths Жыл мурун
I think the targa 4s is the best looking Porsche in a long time. Even if I could afford either. I'd prefer the targa over the turbo.
Mountain Rally Productions
Mountain Rally Productions Жыл мурун
These look so beautiful on camera, but I finally saw one in person and I didn't like it. Maybe it was the color?
Scott Marquis
Scott Marquis Жыл мурун
Virtual Insanity...
vidooba senaratne
vidooba senaratne Жыл мурун
Good comment boys, I am hooked on this car for sure. Keep up your good work.
Earvin
Earvin Жыл мурун
Guys with more experience in life tells much more interesting stories about cars.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Жыл мурун
👍
Alex K.
Alex K. Жыл мурун
Is that your kitty at 8:38?
Mark Merry
Mark Merry Жыл мурун
TheCarGuys is now my favorite channel. G8 JK impression :)
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Жыл мурун
👍👍
joe Dirt
joe Dirt Жыл мурун
There just so big now. My slim 996 is smaller then the new Miata now. Thanks Guys.
Inquiring Minds
Inquiring Minds Жыл мурун
That's BS. You wanna drive these cars to the max but don't wanna show no love when it needs it. If the roof fails let Porsche fix it. It's nothing but a small electric motor and gas struts to assist. If that GEM was my baby I,'d give it whatever it needs.
Jojocall
Jojocall Жыл мурун
old ones are 1000x better looking
Alan W
Alan W Жыл мурун
If money was no object - yes please! Great review
Andrew S
Andrew S 2 жыл мурун
3:49 How could a Targa be faster than the coupe and convertible weighing more than those two?
9FiveB
9FiveB Жыл мурун
magic
Burnham76
Burnham76 Жыл мурун
Indeed. The only way these times would stack up is comparing an entry level non-S Carrera and non-S Convertible to a Targa 4S.
Jasey Fang
Jasey Fang Жыл мурун
Didn’t they say it’s lower than the other 911? Maybe that can achieve better acceleration?
N. Bentley
N. Bentley Жыл мурун
I know this is an old post, but the Porsche website has it listed as follows: Carrera 4S 3.4s, Carrera S 3.5s, Targa 4S 3.6s, so Targa is not faster.
TheBishop12
TheBishop12 Жыл мурун
A regular fixed roof car is metal all around and the roof part probably has electronics going through it for luxuries and extra materials for sound proofing. A convertible actually puts the most weight on a car the folding soft top frame being the culprit. The Targa roof mechanism looks really thin probably used of lightweight metals. Idk if it is but the targa top is probably fiberglass and not metal
David L
David L 2 жыл мурун
i just witnessed a British man mock anothers english accent
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 2 жыл мурун
Another TheCarGuys exclusive! 😀
Lorne Cherry
Lorne Cherry 2 жыл мурун
for the non-Porsche people here, can you tell me what year this car was made for the North America market?
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 2 жыл мурун
2016/2017
guest guest
guest guest 2 жыл мурун
Great show...I love the original targa...
Julian adams
Julian adams 2 жыл мурун
I love the Targa. Your comment about the possible longevity of the roof mechanism really struck a cord with me as I have a 14 year old Mercedes AMG with the folding metal roof and I dread the day it stops working😬
Vincent T.
Vincent T. 2 жыл мурун
Absolutely stunning! Love the fact that they are bringing back the retro targa look on this model.
sa vegan
sa vegan 2 жыл мурун
yeah ,spot on guys good video. well edited and shot. love the car.
Camp Walosi
Camp Walosi 2 жыл мурун
Saw a detail I was unaware of at 10:25...an air deflector just above the windshield/windscreen. Talk about parts that can and will go wrong! These guys are great and think it's time to hit subscribe...
Ervin Flores
Ervin Flores 2 жыл мурун
You guys are cool ❄️ Subscribed
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 2 жыл мурун
Welcome aboard, Ervin
Skylers Supercar Life
Skylers Supercar Life 2 жыл мурун
Damn, its fast!
† Nightwing †
† Nightwing † 2 жыл мурун
You guys are awesome.
† Nightwing †
† Nightwing † 2 жыл мурун
CAT! 8:40
BlackTeer
BlackTeer 2 жыл мурун
Honestly great car and also a wise choice of color.
Skylers Supercar Life
Skylers Supercar Life 2 жыл мурун
You guys are great
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 2 жыл мурун
Thanks
Daniel Pronto
Daniel Pronto 2 жыл мурун
Just two lads talking Porsches, love it 👍🏼
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 2 жыл мурун
Good stuff - glad you enjoyed it
G Howells
G Howells 2 жыл мурун
Best review on you tube by the way, quality.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 2 жыл мурун
Thank you very much, Gareth - glad you’re tuning in and enjoying it
G Howells
G Howells 2 жыл мурун
Very tempted to part ex my 991.1 GTS for a Targa 991.2 GTS in Black.
RIP427
RIP427 2 жыл мурун
It is a targa 4S, not Carrera 4S targa
RIP427
RIP427 2 жыл мурун
@TheCarGuys.TV Wow, thanks
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 2 жыл мурун
Wow, you’re so clever.
robert fix
robert fix 2 жыл мурун
Awesome review !!!
Sotir Zguri
Sotir Zguri 2 жыл мурун
What year was your 911 C4S Targa? I watched your KGglobal video and I have a 2018 911 Targa 4S and it does not have headlight washers while your model had them. I know mine was made for the U. S. market but the elimination of such an iconic item was disappointing because I previously owned a 1984 911 Targa and it had this feature. Also, your concern about the functioning of the roof may be of concern, but I am not worried about it as an owner. My dealer tried to get me to upgrade to a GTS but I chose to keep it simple since I was not intending to race the car and there are only certain areas where one can open this car up and I have felt that the 4S has plenty of power in those instances. Thanks for the review, and by the way, I have tired the LAUNCH CONTROL but not the instant acceleration from the center button. I will try it on my next trip later this month.
computerhelpcc
computerhelpcc 2 жыл мурун
Wonderful style yet inferior to convertible for real use in every way. In convertible, your field of vision is superior, you can hear more of the engine and what your tires are doing, especially on curvy canyon roads. The visual splendor atop mountain passes can only be surpassed via motorcycle or gliding aerial vehicle. The back seat is far more usable, especially for 10 minute unplanned rides for lithe females below 5'10" that decide to join you and your primary companion as you jaunt to the next hot spot for the evening. "Look at me" comment at convertible is a dumb cliche from insecure males. Ah, but the eventual maintenance cost. Hydraulics are simple but Porsche parts are never cheap. Not as visceral as a motorcycle but vastly safer. Thank you for the long-term, real world items regarding living with the car and its predecessors.
Ken M
Ken M 2 жыл мурун
Too gimmicky. The removable roof panels were a better and simpler idea.
Ray Borg
Ray Borg 2 жыл мурун
Its fantastic its a proper Targa once again.Porsche just keeps upping the game with the 911.
radicalrobason
radicalrobason 2 жыл мурун
Love the New Targa 4s and the sure footed ability the AWD provides. Thoughts....Did you find the awd a bonus feature to put all of that power to the ground?
Mostafa ElRouby
Mostafa ElRouby 2 жыл мурун
I wanna hate the Targa because I can't locate a used one within my budget/city. Fuck this, it keeps getting better!
Patrick O'Donnell
Patrick O'Donnell 2 жыл мурун
I love porsha's they are great cars. I have a Cayman and I love it because it's a true mid engine I enjoy it very much. No its not as fast as some 911 but it handles amazing.
Patrick O'Donnell
Patrick O'Donnell 2 жыл мурун
@Young Black Conservative for me yeah because of where I live I don't have a lot of stop and go driving it's all good for the most part I live in the country not a city and the roads here were made for a car like this. What a blast!
Robert Polkamp
Robert Polkamp 2 жыл мурун
I was left wondering who's the pitcher and which one is the catcher...
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 2 жыл мурун
Well, you must be the stroker...
Graham Townsley
Graham Townsley 2 жыл мурун
Great video, think my favourite 911. Never thought about the roof, probably right so I think before buying would check out cost to repair. But great chemistry guys. Right amount of information in entertaining way. Shame one of you looks a bit like Mike Ca§hley won’t hold that against you.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 2 жыл мурун
If ever there was a reason to go on a diet... 😂
Antony Griffiths
Antony Griffiths 2 жыл мурун
Another great real world review. Thanks guys.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 2 жыл мурун
You’re most welcome, Antony
ToBeOrNotToBe
ToBeOrNotToBe 2 жыл мурун
I don't understand how Porsche can be conservative with 0-60 times. It's either the correct acceleration time or it's not in terms of what their cars are capable of......🤔
David Jacobs
David Jacobs 2 жыл мурун
too bad it's not a hard top.
David Jacobs
David Jacobs 2 жыл мурун
I'm talking about convertible hard top. like Mercedes SL or BMW Z4 type. fabric will not last, eventually need to be replace in a decade or two.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 2 жыл мурун
That’s the whole point!
Stephen Lane
Stephen Lane 2 жыл мурун
Great review guys! I love the Targa. What a fantastic car. I’m with you about the roof mechanism I would be worried about it out of Porsche warranty. Hence I would plump for the coupe money dependant maybe the Turbo S?!
The Anime Libarian
The Anime Libarian 2 жыл мурун
I Love the look of The targa
Charles Diver
Charles Diver 2 жыл мурун
I like you guys reviewing cars. Your not trying to be too cool.. (like the car rookies.. or rookie reviewers) which is good. This is a nice modest sports car. I like it. Did I see a button there that makes the exhaust louder?? Can you guys send me some money so that I could put it towards getting a 911 myself? Thanks.
Colin Ashby
Colin Ashby 2 жыл мурун
Time to start wearing Grand Seiko watches. If you haven’t seen them, you will be blown away. Enjoyed this Porsche one. Glad you never went over the speed limit. 😂😂😂
Colin Ashby
Colin Ashby 2 жыл мурун
Impressed
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 2 жыл мурун
I’m wearing a Snowflake in one of the episodes
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV 2 жыл мурун
I have a few - they are awesome
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